GimmickyApps Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Spriter 6.1, Win7x64 The only thing I could find about this was a post by grayborders at http://www.brashmonkey.com/forumOLD/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=12628 But it seems things haven't gotten fixed since then, maybe? Or not completely fixed. I have several times experienced the bug described there, where my z-orders got messed up on alternating frames, meaning I had to manually redo zordering I had *already* had to manually redo once before. Worse, z-ordering is already a bit of a pain if you need to drag more than one sprite at a time. You can select multiple sprites in the z-order pane, but dragging gives you a 'cancel' cursor and doesn't drop them anywhere if you do. I'm trying to animate some martial arts moves, which involve characters spinning around, so their z-orders change like crazy. Is Spriter the wrong tool for the job in my and grayborders' case? If not, then surely I'm missing a z-order editing trick or two in the program? Thanks for any help, GA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamcreator Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 An incomplete answer I have to this is that you have to develop tricks and ways to work with Spriter's Z-order issues. Some stuff I learned so far is that sometimes when you copy and paste something into somewhere, it may screw up the Z order of that key, or even other keys when doing the 'super-paste' as I call it, with Ctrl+Shift+V to paste an element to all frames. Sometimes you have to decide which you'd rather have: the paste or the Z order left in tact. Another trick is that if the Z order remains stable on one keyframe such as key 1, you can always use that frame to copy the Z order to other frames as a sort of Z order backup. However when Z order changes like crazy like in your case, it's best not to do anything that screws up the Z order, which may mean a bit more tedious animating and less pasting or whatever else you notice screws with the Z order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmickyApps Posted March 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 So...the choices are tedious vs tedious. Hmm. I don't have enough experience to know which way, if any, is worse. Well, thanks for acknowledging my experience and sharing yours, it's nice to know I'm not alone at least When you talk about a z-order backup that's the part I don't understand--how can you copy the z-order just to one other frame, not to all of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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